Monday, December 26, 2005

Faith Without Trouble.

"Faith, without trouble or fighting, is a suspicious faith; for true faith is a fighting, wrestling faith."



At Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:50:00 PM, Blogger missmellifluous said...

Hi Doug E,
I hope Christmas was a great time of bleesing, fellowship, and reflection fo you!

I like this quote. At the moment I am reading Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling in which Kierkegaard wrestles with what it means to have faith like Abraham. He says the struggle Abe. must have been going through when God commanded him to sacrifice Isaac would have been tremendous. Kierkegaard also struggles with the complexities of the event.

Kierkegaard's struggle relates to understanding the scripture and having faith, himself; yet, I guess this quote, "Faith, without trouble or fighting, is a suspicious faith; for true faith is a fighting, wrestling faith," could refer to hard circumstances, trials, and suffering as well. What was Erskine refering to when he said this?

At Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:29:00 AM, Blogger Doug E. said...

You are right on it. I could be any of the trials and troubles we face. Most importantly though, Faith is at war against the world.

Scripture tells us that this is the power that will overcome the world; our faith. The world, which is, sin, pain, trials, and everything that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, is what our faith is fighting against.

Hope this helps,


At Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:34:00 PM, Blogger Jada's Gigi said...

Thank goodness we live "by the faith of the Son of God" rather than our own.

At Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:49:00 PM, Blogger Julianne said...

Thanks for an encouraging blog, Doug. I really respect bloggers who desire to uphold the name of Jesus and proclaim God's sovereignty and love. God bless!


At Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:40:00 PM, Anonymous David K said...

Hello my brother Doug,

Just had to say "hi" and hope you had a wonderful Christmas celebrating our Savior's birth. i actually spent Christmas evening with my twin brother David H. Kim. (haha) Anyway, i really do appreciate your daily quotes. And i have to agree and totally consent to the last quote regarding our true Faith to struggle and to fight with this sinful world. But let us not forget the power of Prayer as well. i believe that they (Faith and Prayer) go together like the hand which has both sides -- front and back. And one cannot do without the other. in any case, i wish you and your family a very blessed New Year in 2006!
DCK from Seoul

At Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:21:00 PM, Blogger Doug E. said...


Glad to hear from you. How is Seoul (and your friend). Looking forward to seeing you at the beginning of the year.

PS I'll get back to regular posting when I get back from my trip on the 30th.


At Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:59:00 AM, Blogger no_average_girl said...

wow, i needed that today! thanks for allowing the Spirit to work through you!

hope you have a blessed trip!

At Thursday, December 29, 2005 4:02:00 PM, Blogger Antonio said...

I like the writer of Hebrews description better:

Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. (Heb 11:1)

Faith is assurance and certainty. If you make it out to be anything else, you subtly (and fatally) include works into your definition of faith, and thus abrogate grace.


At Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:05:00 PM, Blogger Doug E. said...

Thanks for your post Antonio,

I actually agree with your post, but also have to remember what the writer of James said, "a faith without works is dead" Faith is certainty, but that certainty produces in us works. That is where the fighting come in. It only becomes legalism if the fighting is what produces the faith, but as I'm sure we both agree that is not how it is. It is the faith that produces the works.

God bless,


At Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:13:00 PM, Blogger Righteous Sinner said...

Amen Doug. We need not be afraid of connecting the words "fight" and "faith", for this is only Biblical. Paul in 1 Timothy 6:12 encourages the man of God to fight the good fight of the faith, and the rest of Hebrews 11 speaks of such fighting that involve works done out of reverent fear, obedience, and love. There are other motivations to working than a legalistic earning of God's favor, and these are empowered by God, please God, and actually occur through God's people.

After reading Hebrews 11, move on to chapter 12, which says "Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God."

Keep running, keep enduring, and fight for the greater joy.


At Friday, December 30, 2005 9:39:00 AM, Blogger Righteous Sinner said...

By the way ... I love the quote.


At Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:57:00 AM, Blogger T.B. Vick said...

great quote . . . I can related from direct experience on that one brother.

At Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:40:00 PM, Blogger JEN said...

Doug, this quote is absolutely refreshing! It spoke to the very depths of where I am. Thank you for shining brightly!


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